Geeks OUT Responds to Orson Scott Card, Still Plans to Skip Ender's Game

The Bill of Rights protects your freedom of speech but it does not protect your right to a blockbuster opening weekend.

NOM Board Member and Ender’s Game author Orson Scott Card’s tone-deaf plea for “tolerance” from pro-gay marriage forces, first given to Entertainment Weekly, struck such a sour note with so many because it seems to miss the point entirely.

This is not and has never been about a much beloved sci-fi novel. Leaving aside the fact that Card thinks gay civil rights didn’t exist in the mid-80s, which is pretty insulting to the post-Stonewall generation frontline against a little something called AIDS—this is about us, here and now. This is about our community refusing to financially support an extreme anti-gay activist. We didn’t read his diary, and we’re not taking dinner table conversation out of context—Orson Scott Card has a very public record of far-right comments against marriage equality as a concept and LGBT folk as human beings, such as:

“But homosexual "marriage" is an act of intolerance. It is an attempt to eliminate any special preference for marriage in society—to erase the protected status of marriage in the constant balancing act between civilization and individual reproduction.

So if my friends insist on calling what they do "marriage," they are not turning their relationship into what my wife and I have created, because no court has the power to change what their relationship actually is.

Instead they are attempting to strike a death blow against the well-earned protected status of our, and every other, real marriage.

They steal from me what I treasure most, and gain for themselves nothing at all. They won't be married. They'll just be playing dress-up in their parents’ clothes.

The dark secret of homosexual society—the one that dares not speak its name—is how many homosexuals first entered into that world through a disturbing seduction or rape or molestation or abuse, and how many of them yearn to get out of the homosexual community and live normally.”

—Orson Scott Card, “Homosexual ‘Marriage’ and Civilization,” 2004

Tell families in 37 states where gay marriage is still illegal that it’s a “moot issue.” Tell citizens in Indiana, where it’s now a criminal act for same-sex couples even to apply for a marriage license. Tell that to the Virginians whose governor wants to recriminalize sodomy. I doubt very much children delegitimized and stigmatized by red-state legislatures across the country are kickin’ back with a cold drink to let historical inevitability do the work now that the Supreme Court has ruled on DOMA. That’s a bizarrely dismissive and defeatist attitude from the same man who swore,

“W]hen government is the enemy of marriage, then the people who are actually creating successful marriages have no choice but to change governments, by whatever means is made possible or necessary… Regardless of law, marriage has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down….”

—Orson Scott Card, The Mormon Times, 2008

Does this look "moot" to anyone? 

This plea for tolerance is perhaps a bridge too far, especially from someone who characterized gay marriage as “the bludgeon [The Left] use to make sure that it becomes illegal to teach traditional values in the schools,” (2012). There’s nothing more democratic and tolerant than a consumer boycott, rooted in the ideas of free market accountability. Skip Ender’s Game is about doing what all of us do every day—use facts to determine who and what to support with our money.

Orson Scott Card, we can tolerate your anti-gay activism, your right-wing extremism, your campaign of fear-mongering and insults, but we’re not going to pay you for it. You’ve got the right to express your opinions and beliefs any way you choose—but you don’t have a right to our money.

How many homophobic billboards and absurd “Gathering Storm” ads would a new fortune built off of Ender’s Game lunchboxes buy for NOM?  

Now would be an ideal time to hear from Lionsgate, as we know them to be a company of open hearts and allies of LGBT families. Now would be a great time, too, to hear from the cast and creative team behind Ender’s Game who have no connection to the author’s anti-gay activities and who’ve been vocal supporters of gay rights in the past. How do you cut this guy a check?

No matter what happens with Skip Ender’s Game, American voters have already rejected Orson Scott Card's and NOM’s extreme anti-gay agenda. Whether they’ll continue to fund it at the box office remains to be seen.  

—Geeks OUT

Comments

jon.herzog
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Great response, guys.

 

pnichols104
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Well said, Jono.

mykelbarber
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Orson, you are so persona non grata in my world. Go home, you're drunk with that pitiful excuse of an explanation. Not one thin dime to your 2000 year old dogma of hate.

Cymroboriqueno
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Skipping the movie altogether will be really hard for a lot of diehard fans just learning about Card's bigotry. For those who just can't bring themselves to miss it no matter what, I suggest buying a ticket for something else and then sneaking in: an only slightly illegal middle-road for the weak willed supporter unwilling to miss the movie in support of a principled boycott, yet unafraifd of teenaged ushers with flashlights.

For maximum engadgement, provide multiple avenues for support for different people, i.e., less than ideal solutions for less than idealistic supporters who are still supporters nonetheless.

Jono
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Support your local libraries, where you can find OSC's books and, ultimately, this movie on DVD for FREE!

misterxnyc
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

MY ENDER'S GAMEPLAN: Go to a multiplex. Pick a showtime of ENDER'S GAME that's unlikely to be crowded. Buy a ticket to GRAVITY with roughly the same showtime. Once in the multiplex, walk into ENDER'S GAME instead; if challenged, tell manager the box office accidentally sold me a ticket to the wrong movie, and watch them wave me into the ENDER'S GAME theater anyway. (They don't give a sh*t, as long as they've gotten their money.) I get to see ENDER'S GAME while enriching LGBT allies Sandra Bullock and George Clooney, and homophobe Orson Scott Card doesn't get a dime. Poor Orson! (Feel free to forward this suggestion far and wide.)

coolfungy17
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

I am so moved by this organization's fight against this idiot of a man. I honestly don't get how you can even be a sci-fi writer and hold on to these kind of archaic ideas. Isn't this story set in the future? Either way, when I learned of him last year regarding the superman/DC story and the artist refusing to work with him; I knew then I would never support this douche. I don't shop at WalMart, I don't support the Boy scouts (but LOVE the girl scouts!) and I won't be giving a dime to this movie. It doesn't even look that great people, so if you're really struggling with this... well...  you should probably take a long hard look in the mirror. Not seeing a movie is not the end of the world. And ultimately, if the movie performs poorly, then Lion's Gate is getting what they deserve for working with someone like him in the first place. And that's really the message they need to get, money walks, bullshit talks.

odonovan
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Let's not forget that AT LEAST 10% of every dollar Card makes from this movie he must donate directly into the coffers of the LDS Church - a much larger, more powerful and more vicious anti-LGBT organzation than NOM will ever be!

rkleinberger
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

You have to take this boycott to the Studio and get it out the the greater public. Run a petition to Lion's Gater on Change.org that you will be boycotting their movie because of this bigot and hater. You have to get the message wider as most of the public is not aware. Though a right-wing backlash aka Chic-fi-la is also possible.

Padmabear999
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

Jon, Awesome and perfect boycott.  NO dialogue with this guy until he RESIGNS FROM BOARD OF NOM.  Then MAYBE.  If you get him to do that, MINDBLOWING.  When Mandela did the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the first word was TRUTH.  And he can't be on the board of nazi NOM and even dare to ask us for 'tolerance.'!!!  Padma

davidjohnwellman
 on Wed, July 10, 2013

I am a SF author. I am neither as prolific or as successful as Card, but then, I haven't been doing it for as long. On the weekend that Ender's Game opens, I am making all of my works available for free at Amazon. I hope to encourage other writers to do the same, the idea being to give SF fans something to do instead of supporting Card with their box office money. 

kingsley58
 on Thu, July 11, 2013

I love that I'm reading a lot of comments from a lot of people who are not LGBT but still are not going to watch the movie because the author. There are a lot of people who think gay people are upset for a casual homophbic stance, but when you show them his nasty quotes and membership at NOM, they immediately get it. It might not even need that much of a push to boycott this movie. There are a lot of movies who are failing with big budgets and this might be one of them. People who read the first novel loved it but they hate the sequels, meaning it doesn't have a huge literary fan base. They also tell me that a lot of the book doesn't match the movie. Others hate the anti-science stance of Orson, which is one of  the most ironic aspects of this controversy considering he is a Sci-Fi writer. That and whoever produced this film forgot that gays also work in Hollywood. For example, a Superman comic book artist wanted nothing to do with Orson and dropped out of his project. These productions require a lot of magic touch and they need a lot of talented gay people to be successful. It wouldn't surprise me if some saved their magic powers for more friendly projects. By now all I've heard is that the movie is linked to this homophobe. Nothing about how good it is or whatever. Def not a good sign.

sequart.org
 on Thu, July 11, 2013

Thanks for the Skip Ender's Game initiative -- and for this wonderful article. This is an important message for everyone to hear, and I hope the Skip Ender's Game initiative brings further attention to Card's homophobia and how far from "moot" the cause for gay rights is.

estherzinn
 on Thu, July 11, 2013

I have an idea! Maybe we should call not only for people to not see the film, but spend what they would have spent on a ticket towards an LGBT charity. If everybody participating in the boycott put in like $10, think of how much good that could do! :)

cyberdraknor
 on Thu, July 11, 2013

I personally will be seeing the movie. While I believe that homosexual marriage is ok, I also believe that he has the right to his opinion. I knew what his beliefs were when I picked up Ender's Game and it did not stop me from enjoying the book. But as he has his right to his beliefs, you all have the right to protest based on your beliefs. I wish you all the best

Gregischillin
 on Fri, July 12, 2013

As a gay man I was at first delight to hear off this boycott. Yet after some thought I think it is a horrible way to protest a work of art by one evil man. My understanding is the book has no comment, literal or subliminal about homosexuality. Protest the man I say but not the work if it is innosent of insult. 

What if Shakespeare was found out to be gay in his day. He would have been locked up discraced and we would perhaps never have the work or Hamlet, Romeo & Juliet, etc.  

Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, Henry Ford was an anti-semite, Andrew Jackson caused the trail of tears yet he won the battle of new orleans.

Who knows what Hitchcock, Chaplin or Lucas' personal views are. Under the protesting is boycott,. If Lucas made the same comments and pursuits we would never get the Empire Strikes Back or Retun of the Jedi. Yet Star Wars would still be a masterpiece. Regardless of a bigot author. 

History will be the judge of this evil man. Yet maybe his work is timeless. I would hate to think we judge art and deeds by personal views. This seems like something the Natzis would do.  

If he goes in public blast him with questions about his views as he freely would be subject to questions example comicon. if the studio was smart they would hide him from the public.

In conculesion to hurt this man is not by defining him one buck about of 12.50 or whatever his deal as producer is. The real way to battle a man like this is not to pledge to stay away but to give the full price of a movie ticket to the Equal Rights Campain. For his one buck I donate 12 to 14. If all our friends and family do this. We will put more of a dent in this sad excuse for a human "spiritual" belief and do more to battle him and his causes then just doing nothing. 

So I suggest. See it. If it sucks 30 mins in you can alwways walk out and ask for a refund.

the whole weight of a mans soul can't be judged by one bad deed or one bad idea. Be kind to the weak of mind.

Gay & proud. 

 

 

thomgall
 on Fri, July 12, 2013

This film isn't welcome in the United Kingdom either. I am spreading the word through every method of social media I can. 

thomgall
 on Fri, July 12, 2013

And Mr Gay and Proud I admire your sentiment. However, don't know that I would be talking about Shakespeare in the same breath as Orson Scott Card. I also have no intention of contributing either one minute or one British pound to the wallet of such a vociferous homophobe. 

drewskidog
 on Fri, July 12, 2013

Here's THE idea for advancing your great work  -  get this -  DEMAND that Lion's Gate does not mearly hold a bennefit (what bull....) but pledges to donate one dollar per ticket to organizations that specifically seek to advance marriage equity.  Otherwise, they will be in the position of publically sidding with Card.  You can accuse Lion's Gate of complicity and threaten to expand the boycott.  Argue that it is the only way to counteract the certainty that Card will use proceeds from the movie to advance his bigotry.  Lion's Gate could see the oppurtunity to giantically increase ticket sales because the move would instantly gain massive puplic support for the film and company.  And best of all Card would so hate it if the effect of his activism was to create a funding source for gays that dwarfed the sum of all his efforts.  That would be the victors showing tollarnce up his .... 

drewskidog
 on Fri, July 12, 2013
Sorry – meant correct spellings 
Here's THE idea for advancing your great work  -  get this -  DEMAND that Lion's Gate does not merely hold a bennefit (what bull....) but pledges to donate one dollar per ticket to organizations that specifically seek to advance marriage equity.  Otherwise, they will be in the position of publicly sidding with Card.  You can accuse Lion's Gate of complicity and threaten to expand the boycott.  Argue that it is the only way to counteract the certainty that Card will use proceeds from the movie to advance his bigotry.  Lion's Gate could see the opportunity to giantically increase ticket sales because the move would instantly gain massive puplic support for the film and company.  And best of all Card would so hate it if the effect of his activism was to create a funding source for gays that dwarfed the sum of all his efforts.  That would be the victors showing tolerance up his ....   
Havemercy
 on Fri, July 12, 2013

It's weird how such an imaginative author can be so politically narrow-minded.

shuhong.hill
 on Sat, July 13, 2013

I'm not LGBT or a geek really, but I was excited to go see Enders Game, because I love the book so much. I still appriciate the book, but I am devistated to hear these incredibly ignorant things coming from the author. Enders Game I always thought of as insightful and progressive. So I will not be going to see the film, despite loving the book and the movie possibly being very good, because of the horrible things Card has said about the LGBT community. And maybe, somehow, my ten bucks that won't go to him through me seeing the film (though he'll always be a success) will make a point. Or at least make me feel better in principle. It is seriously upsetting to hear someone I looked up to as an author say such hateful, ignorant, stupid things. 

shuhong.hill
in response to drewskidog
 on Sat, July 13, 2013

I think that makes sense. Show them that they'll actually lose real money, significant in number to care, and get bad publicity if they don't support LGBT causes with some of their millions. It's not their fault he's a hateful, homophobic guy. And they are a buisness so from that angle it puts them in a tough situation, and they really might not be able to donate a lot of their profits to charity, I don't know what their financials look like. But a legit gesture would go a long away. And I feel bad almost because I would normally go see the movie, and it's not like the actor's or producer's or anyones fault but Card's. And he's already getting paid so he might not lose any money or have any real repercussions. I guess the point is to make progress and start a discussion on gay rights. I really hope they do what you suggest and end up helping the LGBT cause. That would be wonderful and as you said, great press for them too. 

shuhong.hill
in response to misterxnyc
 on Sat, July 13, 2013

I think that people can always find these films online for free (not legally though) and at libraries and stuff, eventually. What should happen is this, if you want to see it for free and not support him financially--you still lose out on making a point, though you can contribut to discussion. I'd love to see it if people DONATED the price of a ticket to an LGBT cause, instead of going to see it in theatres. Sure you can slip into see it, and do that, I guess while kind of unethical--though complicated cause so is supporting the homophobic, you could also support financially (instead of supporting Card financially) the LGBT community. And tell as many people as possible on Facebook, etc. about Card and LGBT causes. 

shuhong.hill
in response to cyberdraknor
 on Sat, July 13, 2013

Sure if he wants he can be unhappy and hateful and believe what he wants. You can say that about anybody. It is not okay for him to contribute to an oppressive, very harmful enviroment in society--the kind taht leads to many LGBT related suicides and hate crimes--which he is. You can't watch a kid beat up another kid for being black, and say it's okay because the other kid has a right to his opinion. If he wants a hate-filled life where he dreams of beating up black kids--but he can't make that a reality because it hurts people. I loved his book too and while now it'll give me pause and I'll think "wow that was a great book but it's upsetting that the author is so ignorant". Like you can appriciate MJ for his music or like me, you can't stop thinking about his molesting boys and can't really enjoy the music because of that. 

kris_1
 on Sat, July 13, 2013

I support calling Orson out on his homophobia, but… i'm okay with giving him a fraction of my 10$ ticket.

jocelynburns
 on Sun, July 14, 2013

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I wasn't aware of Card's views until now. In no way did his homophobic ways come across in any of his books, and I'm sure it will not in this movie. Although I do agree that we shouldn't put money into this guys pocket, there are other people involved in this film and as Lionsgate stated, they don't share any of his views. I don't think other people should be penalized for Card's view and I don't think that people who read the book and see the movie should be penalized for their devotion to the story. Many people enjoy his book and i'm sure will enjoy the movie without sharing the homophobic views of Card. 

jocelynburns
 on Sun, July 14, 2013

I wasn't aware of Card's views until now. In no way did his homophobic ways come across in any of his books, and I'm sure it will not in this movie. Although I do agree that we shouldn't put money into this guys pocket, there are other people involved in this film and as Lionsgate stated, they don't share any of his views. I don't think other people should be penalized for Card's view and I don't think that people who read the book and see the movie should be penalized for their devotion to the story. Many people enjoy his book and i'm sure will enjoy the movie without sharing the homophobic views of Card. 

Neuroglyph
 on Mon, July 15, 2013

To those who say "Well, he's a homophobic man, and that's bad, but I'm still going to see the movie because (insert mealy mouthed excuse here)..." make me a bit disturbed.  Would you willingly go see a movie based upon books written by Neo-Nazis or White Supremecists?  Sure the movie looks good, and I loved reading the book back when I was in junior high school, but I'm certainly not going to let my inner geek talk me out of the morally outrageous behavior the author espouses.  My inner geek has to accept the sacrifice of not being able to watch one "cool" science fiction movie, in order to do what I know is the right thing: Demonstrate to a bigot, and the movie company which supported his work, that they aren't going to get my money, no matter how flashy the special FX are.

boothby171
 on Wed, August 7, 2013

I am creating a "clearing house" of sorts on Razoo that will allow people to donate to many different available LBGT supportive causes, and be tallied under a common heading: that of opposing Card's homophobic writings, rants, and activities.

Sort of a "Bigotry Offset Fund"

I have had a little trouble (technical issues, nothing more) with the site, but I am hoping to have it up in a few days.

Some may support this approach, others may oppose it.  I know I will be seeing the movie.  I like his fiction, but hate his politics on this issue.

I'll post a link to the site when it is ready.

BTW, it's ready: www.razoo.com/team/endersgamefans4equality

 

I will also be making image files available, suitable for printing on business cards, T-Shirts, etc., that contain a QR code to get you to the site.  Perfect for wearing at Comic Conventions, or slipping into OSC books and poster frames....

seachelle122
 on Sat, July 20, 2013

I first read Ender's Game when I was 10 years old and have been wishing, waiting, and hoping for a movie since then. I didn't become aware of OSC's despicable homophobic view until a couple years ago. While I'm disgusted by those views, I'm a little confused about the sudden need to boycott his work and his movie. His views DID NOT in ANY WAY come across in his book, which means they won't come across in the movie. While the movie does put money in his pocket, I'm disappointed that an incredible story that I love and a screen-adaptation of that story that I have been hoping for and looking forward to for the last 12 years is being put down and boycotted when that story relates in no way, shape, or form to OSC's views. 

boothby171
 on Wed, August 7, 2013

BTW, if anyone should holler "unfair!" over this planned boycott, here's how the other side plays:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/opinion/obeidallah-rnc-threats/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

"Apparently, Priebus thinks most Americans have never heard of this Hillary Clinton person. Consequently, he fears that these TV shows could make her a household name -- almost as well-known as say, Bill Clinton.

So what did he do? He sent threatening letters to the heads of NBC and CNN, informing them that "if you have not agreed to pull this programming prior to the start of the RNC's summer meeting on August 14, I will seek a binding vote of the RNC stating that the committee will neither partner with you in 2016 primary debates nor sanction primary debates which you sponsor."

 

As I said earlier, I won't boycott this film (I have too much invested in it).  I have already contributed to the RAZOO page:

www.razoo.com/team/endersgamefans4equality

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