Grant Morrison Outs Batman; Talks of Wonder Woman's Lesbian Utopia

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Jono
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

I don't know. I'm not as much of a devotee as you are, Keith, and while I don't imagine he's saying that Batman is a true homosexual, I have a little trouble with his using the word "gay." By "gay," he seems to mean just ...strange or eccentric or odd. "Queer" to me would be a better word for that, since it has a more nebulous meaning than "gay," which should refer either to general light-hearted holiday festivities (as in "aparrel," a meaning which would NOT apply to the Batman) or to homosexuals. This is a bit like calling something that's different in an uncool way "gay." Though I take Morrison at his word that he doesn't MEAN it as a pejorative, I think that's exactly what he did. 

patrick
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

I have to disagree, Jono. I think he means gay, like, "I like dudes" gay. He even refers to Batman's heterosexuality. And I don't think it's a demeaning use of the term any more that his discussion about Wonder Woman just highlights her BDSM roots, and became a weaker character once the publisher strayed away from that origin.

Jono
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

I would disagree strongly that the core of Batman's appeal is his veiled homosexuality. He's also a brutal vigilante, a bad-ass detective, and one of the most psychotically damaged personalities in all of comics. That's "gay"?

Captain Canine
in response to Jono
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

I think you just described Phi Phi O'Hara.

Jono
in response to Captain Canine
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

Bitch couldn't "detect" a fire if her wig were burning.

asromeburns
 on Fri, April 27, 2012

Dear Grant Morrison,

I like you, so I'll say this nice: "Tranny" is a slur. Especially when a cis guy uses it. Especially especially when you use it to describe your performance as a drag queen.

Don't use it. Not a good word.

Yours sincerely,

An actual tranny.

Josh
in response to asromeburns
 on Sat, April 28, 2012

Agreed. That didn't sit well with me either. You'd think that having written, possibly the greatest trans woman in comics, Lord Fanny of the Invisbles, he'd be more sensitive. Maybe he thinks that gives him some ownership over the word and makes it ok to toss around?

Josh
 on Sat, April 28, 2012

I think the closest analalogy to a person with Bataman's sexualiy in our world is someone like Michael Jackson, who, from many reports, was a non-sexual person due to being pretty damaged early on. He preferred the company of children. Like Batman, I'm not quite convinced he was an actual pedophile. Having kids around let him act like the kid he never got to be (as batman does in many ways - dressing in costume, following no rules). I wouldn't call MJ gay. Queer, possibly. Grant Morrissson, whose work I enjoy, is using "gay" to mean "damaged" and "freaky." And he definitley loses points for banting around the word "tranny". You're a writer, Grant! Use better words!

Jono
in response to Josh
 on Sat, April 28, 2012

sounds like he was trying to be dishy for Playboy

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